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8/13/2015 9:41 am  #1


Setting up a Hawk 19 motor, tell me if I have it figured out.

Ok so I have a Hawk 19 motor in route ordered through my local track. My plan is to set it up for a under .599 1/8th mile class so here is my plan after getting the motor. I understand it has Big Foot 2 brushes whith a GR19 (short stack GR20) arm and Neos.

This is going in a 140gr hard body 1.030 X .500 pencil hubs or 1 1/8 x.500

First, align the brush hoods
Radious down the brushes so the spring fits flat on the brush,
Attach shunt wires and insulators on the springs
Start gearing at 14/50?

Pleas tell me if im missing anything or if Im way off with my plan.

Thanks for the help,
Tim

 

8/14/2015 7:34 am  #2


Re: Setting up a Hawk 19 motor, tell me if I have it figured out.

I would start out with 10/60 because of the weight of your car and it only being 1/8th mile. the other factor will be how far you can glue the track, if only to the tree you may have to soften it up with gear. that is a lot of motor for limited glue. I hope this helps, and let us know how you do.

 

8/14/2015 12:05 pm  #3


Re: Setting up a Hawk 19 motor, tell me if I have it figured out.

Thanks RC, yes glue only to the tree unless we talk the track owner into gluing more.

I got the motor today and can see how much and why the brush hoods are out of line. I will take pictures or video if my GoProvstops acting up and post what im doing.

The gearing is going to be the biggest issue.

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8/15/2015 10:01 am  #4


Re: Setting up a Hawk 19 motor, tell me if I have it figured out.

Hawk 19 is a POS, you will be better off using a VR20, better magnets!


Formerly of SARN
 

8/15/2015 3:11 pm  #5


Re: Setting up a Hawk 19 motor, tell me if I have it figured out.

Really a POS? Lets look at it like this,  we had a veteran racers VR20 die in one race day so I believe they are all POS' s without proper strip down check, set up and break in. Which is why I ask the question.  I have read several good reviews of the Hawk 19 after proper set up and some impressive numbers.

Now if I ran it straight out of the box..I wouldn't expect much, it was clearly put together poorly.

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9/24/2015 12:52 pm  #6


Re: Setting up a Hawk 19 motor, tell me if I have it figured out.

Hawk 19 out of the pkg is terrible.  The stack polymer mags are 1200 gauss.  The proslot mags are gaussing 1700 to 2000.
Supermagnet man singles will gauss at 2100 to 2500 and run great.  They are $10 through me.  The group 19 arm is a very good piece usually.  Change the mags and GD brushes shortened to the right length with shunts and red springs.  This setup will get you mid .7's in a hardbody.

I am on facebook under Tim Crosslin and Crossline racing if you want to visit about this.
 


"It ain't about Class, It's about FASSST!!!
 

9/24/2015 5:05 pm  #7


Re: Setting up a Hawk 19 motor, tell me if I have it figured out.

My Hawk 19 came with Neos and Big Foot 2's. I put red springs in, aligned the hoods put shunt wires on and am running .685 consistently within .003. So I think its doing ok but I am going to try a 10/58 from my now 10/60 and work my way down based on heat so I can use less glue. The car now weighs 115g and the motor is cool after each run.

What do the stock neos gauss at?

Last edited by Tepco (9/24/2015 5:06 pm)

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9/24/2015 5:15 pm  #8


Re: Setting up a Hawk 19 motor, tell me if I have it figured out.

1200 on the stk
The .7's I mentioned are 1/4 mile times.


"It ain't about Class, It's about FASSST!!!
 

9/24/2015 5:29 pm  #9


Re: Setting up a Hawk 19 motor, tell me if I have it figured out.

Ok so I guess im confused you said the polymers were 1200 are they one and the same as neos? I also have a new set of Xmod neos ill gause the next time I go to the track, they feel quite strong.

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9/24/2015 5:50 pm  #10


Re: Setting up a Hawk 19 motor, tell me if I have it figured out.

xmod are stronger for sure, I would guess 1500 -/+
They are a mixture of polymer resin and neo powder then charged.  Some people call them polymer neos.
 


"It ain't about Class, It's about FASSST!!!
 

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