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6/22/2013 11:25 pm  #1


Heavy car recomendations

Car: 1/25th diecast 1948 Chevy Fleetline
Body weight: 361.1g
Desired ET: 18's or better. Our track has a minimum 19.99 et.
Motors: I have many types from Parma 16D's to Koford 27's, plus most 12's box 15's and INT 15's from 15 years ago.
Gears: I have most pinions and crowns, in 48 pitch and 64 pitch. 
Tires: I need to buy tires.
Chassis: I have a WRP C-06 Tall Tire kit, and enough stainless tube for the entire chassis.

So, I need recomendations on motor, gears and tires. Let me repeat, my main goal is to get this oddball body into the 18's. To prove the point it dosen't need to be fast to win at brkt racing. ...I'll admit faster is funner though! http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/grin.png
ANY advice pertaining to this build will be greatly appreciated.

I'll try to get pics tomorrow.

Thanks!


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6/23/2013 11:56 am  #2


Re: Heavy car recomendations

Good Luck getting that tank stopped. http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/blooper.png


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6/24/2013 11:04 am  #3


Re: Heavy car recomendations

Speed Fx super 16d motor.  1 3/16 X .435 wide tire geared 13/54 should gor faster than you want and then slow it down from there.  We run a heavy chevy diecast class on a 1/8 mile 1.060 index.  My car for that runs high 16 to 17 on the 1/4.  And they stom no problem!

 

6/24/2013 12:42 pm  #4


Re: Heavy car recomendations

stretch wrote:

Speed Fx super 16d motor.  1 3/16 X .435 wide tire geared 13/54 should gor faster than you want and then slow it down from there.  We run a heavy chevy diecast class on a 1/8 mile 1.060 index.  My car for that runs high 16 to 17 on the 1/4.  And they stom no problem!

Thanks alot Stretch! That will give me a starting point to work on the car for 1/4 mile use. I didnt think stopping would be much of a problem, as I was thinking of trying to limit it to around 18. http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/happy.png


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6/24/2013 2:34 pm  #5


Re: Heavy car recomendations

That car will be just shy of 500 grams when it's finished. http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/stoned.png


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6/24/2013 3:15 pm  #6


Re: Heavy car recomendations

I am thinking a can of bake beans with a 44 arm quad neo is on the cards http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/smile.png


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6/27/2013 4:15 am  #7


Re: Heavy car recomendations

JUGGLER, Just replace that Pro Slot motor with a Parma s16d and a 12Th pinion should get you in the 18's ,with the setup Stretch suggested , hope you do not hurt yourself lifting it out of the gluehttp://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/lol.png
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6/27/2013 10:19 am  #8


Re: Heavy car recomendations

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7/10/2013 10:52 pm  #9


Re: Heavy car recomendations

Well, it was an idea that will not come to frutition, I had a talk with the track owner. He said it was descussed by the racers early on, and was rejected. He sadi I could build one if I wanted, but could not race it. I'd much rather build a car that I could race anyways. Brkt car or 10/90, 9/90 car.

I did go ahead and build a slow car anyway, haven't had a chance to run it yet.Hopin' for 18's but Ill take low 19's in a heartbeat. http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/grin.png


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7/11/2013 4:48 am  #10


Re: Heavy car recomendations

Juggler, it will run ,they tend to not stop so sudden , maybe your track owner is trying to save the walls in the buildinghttp://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/lol.png
, let us know how it worked anyway and still sent the pictures ( I never have fiquered that outhttp://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/dead.png
) Good luck, if your slow car is not as slow as you want it switch to an 8 th pinon and a 50 th gear ,the motor will peak out by the 60 ft mark and should run 2 seconds if the motor does not fly apart.. ,  Sounds like the discusion was due to other racers not having the skills necessary  to race against a slow car..old maximum time for a 1/4 mile was 3 secounds, but with the death of the old SDRA, tracks let the racers decide how slow you can go up here ranges from 1.4 - 1.6 - 2.0 depending on what track your athttp://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/cry.png
  Wonder what they would do if they came up against a 40 Hp VW at the real track?

Last edited by davidRevans (7/11/2013 5:01 am)

 

7/13/2013 6:39 pm  #11


Re: Heavy car recomendations

davidRevans wrote:

Juggler, it will run ,they tend to not stop so sudden , maybe your track owner is trying to save the walls in the buildinghttp://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/lol.png
, let us know how it worked anyway and still sent the pictures ( I never have fiquered that outhttp://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/dead.png
) Good luck, if your slow car is not as slow as you want it switch to an 8 th pinon and a 50 th gear ,the motor will peak out by the 60 ft mark and should run 2 seconds if the motor does not fly apart.. ,  Sounds like the discusion was due to other racers not having the skills necessary  to race against a slow car..old maximum time for a 1/4 mile was 3 secounds, but with the death of the old SDRA, tracks let the racers decide how slow you can go up here ranges from 1.4 - 1.6 - 2.0 depending on what track your athttp://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/cry.png
  Wonder what they would do if they came up against a 40 Hp VW at the real track?

Well, I don't want to mention any names, but let's say I hooked 3-4 drivers into jerkin' the bulb! http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/wink.png
They would probably do the same at the real track, unless they use a box. BTW, as I couldn't build a car the way I wanted, I built a heavy framed car, and an old Parma 16D. Used 48 pitch gears. Ran 1.6's, lotsa fun, but wouldn't want a steady diet of it!

on edit: Thats right, a Parma 16D not a S-16D. 16D is an old Flexi car motor.

Last edited by Juggler (7/14/2013 12:13 am)


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7/14/2013 11:02 am  #12


Re: Heavy car recomendations

Get a reverse timed motor, hear it 10 /60 put a bunch of weight in it and it will go slow and you can use a model body.  Should be NO complaints!

 

11/17/2014 4:30 pm  #13


Re: Heavy car recomendations

went the track see they set slow limit at 1.8888 ????  let's my Sherman tank out at 2.2100  and I only ran it there one time . it is geared 8-48 with a parma wore out 16d white endbell  looks like I got to upgrade an get it to 1.8000    , slow cars do drive them nuts

 

11/17/2014 11:52 pm  #14


Re: Heavy car recomendations

davidRevans wrote:

went the track see they set slow limit at 1.8888 ???? let's my Sherman tank out at 2.2100 and I only ran it there one time . it is geared 8-48 with a parma wore out 16d white endbell looks like I got to upgrade an get it to 1.8000 , slow cars do drive them nuts

That's supposed to be 1.899, but you can make as many time trial pass'es as you want. (I kinda dropped the diecast idea, and went with a plastic body instead). Mine (the Cobra) go's 1.815 - 1.830's pretty regular. I rarley get it out, but when I do, there are 4-5 guys that start pulling their hair out! Good fun had by all!
 


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11/18/2014 10:18 am  #15


Re: Heavy car recomendations

real fun is to run up against a slow car, dial close to him and keep playing with the throttle to just pass him at the end  , very hard to do ,but can be mastered , lol , hope to get to the track more often an see you there Juggler

 

11/21/2014 8:38 am  #16


Re: Heavy car recomendations

All of this talk of slow cars has made me jump in. I found 2 close out Carrera "lead Sleds" at a close out at my local Hobby Town. At first I bought them just for the bodies. They are beautiful. Little driver with the fuzzy dice hanging from the rear view mirror and the boom box speakers on the rear deck lids. I used the original chassis, so, I take out the motor and rear axel and tires. Put in a Falcon motor, gear it something like 15/58, put 3/32 bushings, and 1-1/16 JDS tires on it. No wheelie bars.Then use my Stealth controller dialed on the lowest speed. 16 volts. Car runs 2.990 EVERY PULL of the trigger.No glue, track wiped down before every pass.  ( slowest we can go is 2.999 ) Drives them nuts. Most of my wins come from the red lights because they get impatient. I have to admit, looking down the track at my car, it does look like it is already in the speed trap before they leave the line.

Last edited by charley (11/21/2014 8:40 am)

 

11/21/2014 11:36 am  #17


Re: Heavy car recomendations

a slow car painted white, bright yellow ,glow orange . gets more red lights due to high visibility  on the track , and appears closer finish line than it is  dark colors do not catch the eye . Gearing I like 10th pinion just cause it makes it easier to figure ratio and a crown or side winder gear 52-60  depending on tire height , taller the tire the more teeth , not as effected so bad by down track glue later in races as you peak about half track.. as far as weight I have run 450-500 gram no bar hunks of lead -no matter how you gear it  they will punish a motor from the can bushing to com and  brushes

 

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