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3/20/2011 6:15 pm  #1


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Post your comments here, we just want records on the thread.

  Thanks
    DVan


"Where legends are made and records are broken".
 

3/20/2011 6:19 pm  #2


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Dave P, could you please post a picture of the Ferrari, so Bill Baunghn could see it, if possible.

Thanks
   DVan


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3/21/2011 5:10 am  #3


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Dave no problem, if you have pictures you can email them to me at
bracket500@live.com and I will post them for you.

  DVan


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3/21/2011 7:02 am  #4


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Bill not yet.. Maybe Gary will post a picture of it..

DVan


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3/21/2011 9:03 am  #5


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Congratulations guys on the Neo records
thats some phenomonal power
hope to get my first Neo started soon
with help from Timmy
do you guys have any recommendations for chassis
I have C-10s in most of my cars but realise i will need to go to a sidewinder
Thanks
Royz


Just enjoying Life and Slots
 

3/21/2011 9:16 am  #6


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JW is this it?

     http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f181/67vwracer/neocar.jpg



   DVan


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3/21/2011 3:57 pm  #7


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Dave why did you guys Choose this body to run the Neos?

  DVan


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3/23/2011 9:17 pm  #8


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Nice Car JW!

Got the new JDS tires on my Neo F/C 27 car.  Put a new motor brace under the frame, With the Hawk and this type brace you can solder in with little to no heat on the neos.
Took the aluminum fronts off and the car now weighs 69 Grams.

Off to OKC Saturday,
Timmy


"It ain't about Class, It's about FASSST!!!
 

3/24/2011 2:07 pm  #9


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Marty thanks.


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3/25/2011 2:23 pm  #10


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Yes, that body and a few others are perfect for stuffing a tall and wide tire.  My new car (a.k.a. the Dalmation  ) can fit .550's on the JDS neo chassis.  It's pretty cool.

 

3/27/2011 1:07 am  #11


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Some pic's of Test and Tune at OKC,
A little proof for the pudding, LOL.

The run ET's on these motors are most likely Armature performance differences, not mag installation differences.
It is nice to know that either way these mags are "BAD TO DA BONE BABY"
I have a great story to tell tomorrow of my Stupidity!

First two are the 4 Corner motor.
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab123/64THANDFINE/OKC%20runs/001.jpg


http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab123/64THANDFINE/OKC%20runs/011.jpg




Next ones are the True Quad,
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab123/64THANDFINE/OKC%20runs/004.jpg



http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab123/64THANDFINE/OKC%20runs/009.jpg


http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab123/64THANDFINE/OKC%20runs/007.jpg


News at 11!,
Timmy

Last edited by TIMMY! (3/27/2011 1:09 am)


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3/27/2011 8:32 am  #12


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Woah
Timmy thats way cool good job
Royz


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3/27/2011 1:03 pm  #13


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Nice job Timmy!   

 

5/01/2011 6:31 pm  #14


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I tested the 2 motors from 3/27/11 that yielded Great results the first time out.
I switched the Arms around because I wanted some extra info on the different mag set-ups.
My results came out about the same but different, LOL, are you confused yet, LOL?

First I will say that whatever caused the test numbers to slow was most likely my fault, I don't blame everything on other factors, but they do come into play none the less.
As we all know you can go to the track 2 days in a row and the things will not stay the same.
At OKC last night the track was not slow, it was as good or a little faster than 3/27 for the majority of cars.
What was not the same was the warm day leading into a storm cell that moved in late in the evening.  FYI , the glue that we use is very much a changing factor with the weather, temp,
hum-did-ity and BEAR-O-METRIC prezzure, lol. 
Plus I did go to a lighter wing, trued the tires and tried a diff gear on the first motor.
Maybe the arms did not like the set-ups they switched too
My testing was a bit off though, The motor that ran .613 @ 89.66 ran a best of .653 @ 82 mph.
The motor that ran .630 @ 85.23 ran a best of .675 @ 80 mph.
It seemed to be harder to hook up yesterday, .082 being the best 60' I remember.
The increment was still .022 between motors which did hold consistent to the last outing.

What I feel is the important part of this test is the mags perform well either way you want to use them.  The conventional glued together KMR Quads seem to like a tighter gap and turn a bit more rpm the 4 corner motor and is the standard for mags through the years.
How ever the 4 corner motor with .065 gap between mags acts more like a single/quad compromise with much more thump, seeming to produce more torque than the quads.

In fact it must not produce more torque, because the 60' times favor the conventional set.
.081 to .080.
Maybe the unglued set makes good midrange?

In 10 years racers will be able to tell you from experience what does what.
Right now it is a NEW and WIDE open field with many variables that most of us don't have a clue about.  Except that Darn MARTY, LOL, he is the expert on theory and NEO behaviour IMO.
Lets not forget about Robert K., he may be just as knowledgeable, I don't know his background as well as Marty's.

I urge and challenge you Racers to enter the learning curve with us and get in on the ground floor fo Neo Technology.

I thought the KMR's might overpower the ps 4012 grp 12 arm at .011 per side air gap, but not the case, the one I tested yesterday liked the quads a bunch! 
Here are the pic's form the Neo hawk 12 runs, did not get a pic of the 78.5 mph, but it was there, lol.

http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab123/64THANDFINE/neo%2012%20times/4-30-11okc012.jpg


http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab123/64THANDFINE/neo%2012%20times/4-30-11okc014.jpg


Thanks for listening,
Timmy

ps.  Remember one thing, "FEAR THE GHOST RYDER"  keep watching and find out who this is!

Last edited by TIMMY! (5/01/2011 6:40 pm)


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5/01/2011 6:51 pm  #15


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Timmy great results on that motor for Ghost Ryder, that's going to be one great motor.
Thanks for all the detailed information of your results.

  DVan


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5/02/2011 2:48 pm  #16


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Carl,
Marty told me you low et'd the field with your STAWK HAWK!
Impressive, Congrats!
Timmy


"It ain't about Class, It's about FASSST!!!
 

5/03/2011 10:43 pm  #17


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Way to go Novaz!!!
Like the way this is goin!

Timmy


"It ain't about Class, It's about FASSST!!!
 

5/07/2011 3:58 pm  #18


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Carl,
If you are lookin for some more power from the stock Hawk arm, try de-winding each segment 15 turns. Talk about a power boost!!!
You can also re-wind them, but no heavier then 27 gauge, the coms' can't handle anything hotter.

Bill

 

5/17/2011 9:59 pm  #19


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Nice runs Hammish!
Is this the one you talked about on 400?

Timmy


"It ain't about Class, It's about FASSST!!!
 

5/28/2011 9:24 am  #20


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Good job Carl, I had a stock hawk that went .598 in the 1/8 at 85g. Koford has a $13.00 arm that will run .550 in a stock hawk. They are fun. I'm running these in about all my hard tail dragsters with no wheelie bar.

 

6/08/2011 9:22 pm  #21


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Thanks to Timmys help again
ran a new best with the 12 Quad
Royz


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6/08/2011 9:32 pm  #22


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What did it run?

 

6/09/2011 6:13 am  #23


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7/03/2011 10:18 am  #24


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Good job Carl.

 

7/15/2011 11:26 am  #25


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I would like to thank Allen, Dvan, Gary and Roy for helping with my R&D projects.  I have some new ones on the drawing board. 

What am I saying?  They have all outrun me with the stuff I built for them, THAT JUST AIN'T RIGHT! LOL

Stay Tuned,
Timmy


"It ain't about Class, It's about FASSST!!!
 

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